Neptune 8th house, psychic breakthrough through sacred sexuality. Exchange of powerful energies. Conscious, lifelong preparation for death. Encounters with Powers both within and without. Occult practices and experiences. Heaven storm Energy Leak: Romantic and sexual obsession. Drama. A pessimistic dissolution. Temptations of the Dark Side. Giving up magic.
First of all, for the sake of efficiency here, I would like to emphasize that the eighth house, like the seventh house, reflects the realities of our close relationships. As we will see, it also covers very different regions. But for the sake of continuity, we will begin by revisiting the world of soul intimacy; We will begin by noticing that although the seventh and eighth houses share common ground, they are miles away from being interchangeable. In the eighth house we deal with sexual energy in a more explicit and concrete way. Sex in the seventh house can be a part of this, but also friendship and the broader, more inclusive meaning of the term, soulmates. The seventh house is not always erotic, it is not always romantic. With the eighth house, there is a greater tendency to confront the challenging, often confusing mysteries of the world.chemistrybetween people— the mysterious agent of the situation is our old friend and ancient enemy: purple passion. We meet extremely nice people who are card-carrying representatives of whichever gender attracts us most. They are physically attractive enough by community standards. They're totally nice. We love them very much. We vote for the same punks, love the same Thai restaurant, listen to the same music, but still , sleeping with any of them would feel like sleeping with a sibling.
Sex doesn't even enter our minds. There are people we are just not on that romantic, partnering wavelength with. On the other hand, there are people we meet and they are ancient! Hormones enter our bloodstream. This seems to happen quite independently of their moral fiber or personality. We vote for different scoundrels, etc. But if we are men, we need to sit down quickly, and if we are women, it looks like we are ovulating at first glance. You all know exactly what I'm talking about; That incredible erotic attraction that we encounter from time to time in life. You feel this energy with someone and what? Maybe it's the beginning of a really good chapter of your life, maybe it's the beginning of a very long chapter of your life. Or maybe it's a six-week happy salad course followed by a year of psychotherapy. How do we handle all this? They're two realities - true love and romantic disaster - and it's hard to tell them apart when those hormones come into play. Either way , it feels pretty much the same at first. Welcome to the eighth house, where particularly dreamy Neptune is there. We'll look at the dark side of all this soon, but let's start from a higher ground. There, in the eighth house, we look into its secret. permanent or sustainable sexual chemistry between humans. We're looking at the deep mystery of being a successful couple—and let's face it, two such people are definitely Friends. There is more than a simple friendship that binds them in the seventh house sense. When a lover says “let's be friends,” we all understand that this is a demotion, so to speak, that the quality of intimacy gradually decreases. This difference between sleeping together and just being friends is actually the definition of this dimension of the eighth house.
By the way, take friendship out of the equation and if there is anything left, bottle it and call it the elixir of the eighth house. It's not the opposite of friendship; Thinking this would be a big mistake. But this is something outside the normal scope of simple closeness between people. Any planet in the eighth house will give us insight into what constitutes the heart of this type of attraction. Add Neptune to the mix and we're looking at this: the spiritual foundation for sexual connection. This is not about shared religion or philosophy, although those are useful. This is not about cognitive agreement. It's about something much more viscerally felt. It is often accompanied by a shared pattern. psychic communication has left its mark on daily life. One says: "How about trying the new Thai place on Magazine Street?" The partner smiles and replies: “I was about to ask you the same thing!” Multiply this phenomenon by countless repetitions and you have a classic expression of Neptune in the eighth house. If you have this configuration in your own chart, you need such a relationship. Through synchronicity, you will attract opportunities to connect with such people. You are doing soul work with them. Thanks to this sign you will recognize them. We get to the heart of the matter from a sexual perspective, looking at the possibility of sexual intercourse. Maintained eye contact throughout the point of orgasm . That moment of absolute nakedness of the human soul was shared. It doesn't have to happen or be intended every time the couple has sex. But sometimes it will happen. There is hardly a deeper nudity than this, and if lovers can resist the urge to close their eyes in that intimate moment and instead manage to remain engaged, there will be a combination of Neptune's mystical experience with the sexual energy of the eighth house. We are talking about sacred sexuality. According to our broad understanding of the eighth house, this is one of the sacred houses. rites . But there is more to the eighth house than that.
While we're not done talking about sexuality here , I want to quickly point out that Neptune can be in the eighth house and you could potentially "die a virgin" and still do a pretty good job of it. We will achieve this. A critical point: the eighth house also refers to certain types of non-sexual relationships; But let me focus on sexuality for a moment to build our launch pad into a broader framework. If two people become lovers, and I'm not talking about a casual situation where they go to bed together, I'm talking about where they are lovers for, say, six or eight consecutive weekends. It's a sentence that makes everyone laugh, but if lovers last that long, things start to get complicated. among those . The relationship becomes rawer and more human, and this is where we enter the eighth house. No more homes for people —and when I say "people" I mean warts and all. If you are "in bed with someone" in the broader sense of that expression, you will know them better than anyone else in the world for a long time. You see their rough places, their hard places, their anger, their control issues, their fears and their angry places; you see their hardships, their wounds, and possibly their tears.
Lovers share and communicate on this level, in the deep eighth house sense of the word. This is where we go beyond sexuality. You have a friendship with someone. It's not sexual, but it's a relationship where you can talk about anything. Maybe you cried together. Maybe you got angry. This is the kind of relationship where sometimes you risk your entire existence to keep the relationship honest. You tell each other things you don't want to hear; You say the things you're afraid to say. You are not sure that your words will be understood correctly, but the commitment in the relationship should be that real. We are talking about. Truly best friends. Let's take a small detour and create a slightly deeper bridge to understanding this type of soul friendship. Classically, the eighth house is the house of death—and we actually have a few things to say about mortality before we finish. Let me start by imagining this. You have recently received a terminal medical diagnosis. Who is the first person you would tell ? Who is the first person you would sit down and talk to about this? When you answer this question yourself, you list your eighth housemate or friend. Most of the time one of these is sufficient. The eighth house is not always so miserable and terrible, but there is a lot of "miserable" and "terrible" in life. People are often embarrassed to share these things. “Embarrassed” seems like an odd word to use, but think about it.
If you have this type of diagnosis with Neptune in the 8th house, have you noticed how there is internal resistance to telling others? Saying these words makes you very vulnerable and you know that hearing these words will make anyone uncomfortable. This is very heavy and there is a huge cultural taboo about bringing up “heavy” topics. That's why we're all socially trained to keep bad medical news secret. Except where ? The answer lies in our eighth house relationships. With Neptune in that house, there is a great need to be able to connect with someone in a spiritual way in the face of the sheer magnitude and terror of life. So who do you turn to when things get bad? Who can see you in your raw, real state? Notice how we expand our definition of the eighth house beyond the sexual framework. As we have seen, the eighth house is actually often about sexuality in the adult sense of the word; However, it actually refers to all the relationships we can live in. exchange powerful energy. Just adding a little reality check here. If you had sex with someone and received this kind of terrible medical diagnosis, who would you tell first? We understand that in almost every healthy soul marriage, your partner will be the first to hear the news. Sex is not the cornerstone here; it is raw human intimacy.
But most of the time they go together. To help someone get out of this world…to help someone die—there is a Neptune phenomenon in the eighth house. And I'm not talking narrowly about overdosing someone out of compassion or anything like that. Be on our possible list; Sometimes people have to make choices like this. Maybe instead we're simply talking about being with another person as they come out of this world - holding their hand and being there in that sacred, mysterious moment. The phrase that almost came to mind was: “Giving advice to someone who is dying,” but somehow that sounds too confusing, too intellectual, too babbling. Most “counseling” of people who have passed away from this world consists of sitting there with them, just being in that space with them.
If you have Neptune in the eighth house, you may very well attract this exact experience into your life; Someone close to you needs your help as they pass through this world. Mysteriously, your souls signed that contract. And if you hold someone's hand as they pass through this world - they are medically alive and medically deceased as you hold their hand - that is an experience that will live within you forever. Socially, we might say things like, “ Oh, what a terrible thing, what a terrible experience.” And people will say about it: “That must have been so bad for you. I'm so sorry." You'll hear it. It's just social conversation. But what you know in your heart is that being with your friend in his final moments was a sacred experience. Your soul friend allowed you into the sacred space of his exit from this world, and you were privileged to be there, too. "Happy You are not, but you know in your bones that he has given you a gift. This memory is sacred to you for the rest of your days on this Earth. And when it is your turn to die, you draw strength from the courage and grace of your Friend's transition. Some people stop doing hospice work with that kind of structuring. This is certainly a high expression of the potentials of Neptune in the eighth house. But I'm talking about it occurring more naturally or spontaneously in your life. Such experiences reflect a small percentage of your time on this Earth, but what you get out of this Earth and your journey within it. In terms of what you learned, it will be high on the list. Touching things. Taking the topic of Neptune and mortality even further, we can observe that when Neptune is in the eighth house, part of your spiritual path is developing a constant awareness of your own death—let death be your teacher, let death be your counselor.
Due to concurrency laws, you'll probably find that you'll get some help with this. Help can come in the form of small reminders that you may die. An example is almost a car accident or maybe an illness that could be life-threatening but then you recover. Maybe you just have an imagination disease. Maybe you ate too much pizza and got a stomach ache from the acids and thought, "Oh my God, pancreatic cancer!" you think. We can laugh at this image, but the idea is that for two or three days you have the subjective experience that something is really wrong there and you are going to die . Angels laugh at you a little, but they try to stand tall in front of you; They don't want to tell you it's just pizza. This little taste of the reality of your own death is so helpful! They don't want to waste it. The angels know that sooner or later the pain will become real and this will be a sign that you are nearing the exit because of course we will all die. We all get there. Keeping death close helps you truly understand what is important and what is not. And keeping death close in this way is part of how you clean your windows with Neptune in the eighth house. It's a tough road, this! Sex and death are, of course, a famous pairing in all the literature on the subject. And there is the eighth house: it embraces the two most intense issues in the world. I want to bring these together a little more, and this will eventually lead us to a classic combination of eighth house intensity and pure Neptunian mysticism: the occult. We're just a few steps away from getting there . Going back to the topic of sex for a moment, I used that very vivid image of maintaining eye contact with my lover to the point of orgasm.
When you humanly sit with this image, you feel a thrill of energy passing through you. Do you feel what a massive jolt of cosmological amperage is being given to your batteries just by imagining this experience ? In that sacred alchemy, two people come together and they both leave the situation stronger. Take another step on your reality checker: Two people who have just had that sacred sexual experience are less likely to catch a cold in the next three days. I know how crazy this sounds, and of course it wouldn't be right if one of them had already sniffed. But when you stop for a moment and sense this, doesn't this basic claim seem true to you? Sexual love fills us with life force.
The logic is that the life batteries are recharged and one effect of this is that the healing powers, the body's defensive powers, are stronger. This image provides a deep insight into Neptune in the eighth house, the mystical process of creating the energy charge within us. Calling this is prana , calling this is ki . It is known by many names. As promised, we are approaching the world of the occult . In most such occult traditions, this energy charge accumulates in the solar plexus . I think this is probably the right way to think about this; I think a little Sun is starting to shine there because you have experiences that charge it. Sacred sexuality is just one of these experiences. Let's tie this back to death. You walk away from the nursing home where you held your friend's hand an hour ago. It has now left the body. There is a vivid feeling that your friend's soul has triumphantly left the body. You can feel this truth; even if it was never mentioned in science class. You can't explain this to anyone, and you probably have enough sense to keep your mouth shut about it unless you're with someone you truly trust. Why argue? Why waste good energy arguing with a materialist? But you felt your soul leaving your body. You felt the sacred triumph of this. Go back to the moment of this experience. Can you feel your solar plexus battery getting a little charged ? Conscious contact with the process of death and dying nourishes your ancient soul battery.
And when Neptune is in the eighth house, that's actually a big part of what you're doing here: feeding the battery. Personally, I am horrified by the idea of “sacrifice” any living being as a religious ritual. You won't see me doing voodoo . But accepting the moment of death as a gateway to vast energy realms is actually the key to understanding even such species. Go further than barbaric practices. There's a lightning storm, and instead of running for shelter, something inside you forces you to go outside. Here you are, standing in front of the storm with your arms outstretched, feeling the moving energies of the earth and sky flowing through you and towards you. Wow! Feel ityes ! Here the universe roars and you open your heart to it. Can't you feel it? Of course you can, you are human and this is your legacy. Now imagine a shaman ten thousand years ago doing exactly the same thing, following the same instinct. Easy, right? So we go from sex to death to lightning storms. Notice the common denominators: Something fills you with juice; something fills you with energy. Why don't we, as a culture, talk about these things anymore? Why have we, astrologers, who are claimed to be the owners of ancient wisdom, forgotten all this? With Neptune in the eighth house, these potentials are at your disposal. Discovering these is part of your soul's intention in this lifetime. Now, once again, I am not appealing to your social, cultural, or academic training, but to your ancient, primitive self, because all of that is completely out of place here. I 'm resorting to something much more primitive than that. When it's your time to die, wouldn't it be a really good thing to charge that battery as you leave this world? Getting it really alive and ready? Doesn't this make sense? Does n't it seem intuitively right that such an attack would help you delve into the mystery of the universe ? Bardo from dying ? And don't confuse this with physical vitality; Frankly, physical vitality on the deathbed is rare. We're not talking about "standing in the Judgment Hall," not some Sunday School nonsense about dying. We are talking about the real mystery of the dying process. I'm leaning very much in the Tibetan direction here. We're talking soul navigation . bardo is in the mysteries – with all the risks and incredible opportunities associated with the moment of death. And if you have Neptune in the eighth house, I'm talking about you. With this position of Neptune, we can say that you spend your life preparing for the moment of death. You need it to be ready. beloved friends Minlesin exchange powerful energy. You will benefit greatly from sacred sexual experiences.
You will likely have contact with death throughout your life and can draw energy from such experiences. Whether it's the equivalent realities of walking through lightning storms—or walking on the shore as storm waves crash, or standing next to a volcano, or feeling the power raining down on you from a dark desert sky filled with more stars than you can count. Spending your life preparing for death; put this idea through cultural filters and we quickly see how easily it can be misinterpreted. We've been conditioned to think this is a depressing statement. It's like we're always telling you to morbidly dwell on death.
This is certainly not the meaning of Neptune in the eighth house. Youaccumulate the energy that keeps the astral body conscious and intact through the mystery and trauma of leaving the body . This goes into very deep territory. However, if you have Neptune in the eighth house, you are already in that deep zone. Even if no one has ever said such a word to you before, I believe you are equipped to understand what I am saying. Let's take the “hidden” meaning of Neptune in the eighth house even further. For the majority of people on the planet with this configuration—about six or seven hundred million people in all—what I say won't make much sense.
Neptune in the 8th house
We're definitely at the higher end of the evolutionary spectrum here. If you encounter this material, I suspect you are ready to hear it. We have seen that certain types of relationships play a very important role in the eighth house process. We attach importance to human relations. Various occult traditions that fall into some exotic territory include beliefs and disciplines that include: Establishing relationships with unseen beings—gods, spirits, demons, etc. This is also part of eighth house Neptune's realm of possibilities. The underlying idea is that the “double” is stronger than either part. This sentence could fit earlier in this presentation as a simple reference to a human couple. Here, in this occult context, it takes on a different color but still retains many of the same characteristics. For example, occult traditions often refer to relationships with humans and power animals—and again there are parallels with previous eighth house patterns.
With Neptune in the eighth house you may find yourself drawn towards these " animistic " aspects; Maybe a very strange cat is meowing at your door. Or maybe the relationship isn't with an animal. Maybe an angel will knock on the door of your soul. If this is your path, the universe will let you know. Synchronicities emerge; You will be guided by signs. You will find teachers. And as a result, you will be more energetic and stronger. Some occult traditions place less emphasis on the idea of "other beings" with whom we can establish energetic symbiosis . Instead, they invoke “forces” of a more neutral, less personal nature. I'm not convinced the difference is anything more than personal perception, but regardless, this second "inorganic" language is closer to my own experience. In both cases, we align with “something” outside ourselves, and together we become stronger in ways not possible outside of this type of working partnership. If you keep your battery charged, you will have insights, creativity and inspiration that you would not normally have. This is something you can take to the famous bank.
Now let's take a look at the dark side of this placement. The bin dimension of the eighth house is generally pessimistic, heavy and thoughtful. Imagine a person who is morbidly obsessed with death and all the heaviness and moodiness that can be associated with this preoccupation. This can occur completely independently of whether death is actually consciously in the person's mind. It may be working from the unconscious, sucking the life out of the person.
our sexual energy on endless intimate dramas . Life becomes a game of passion ; love that ended tragically after love that ended tragically. This place is a huge danger. We can talk about “sexual dissatisfaction” . It refers to an orgasm quota that we fail to meet, almost anything mechanical, I don't mean some of them . When I use the word “sexual” among adults, I am not just talking about genital needs, but rather the need for a certain quality of bonding between two people. Bad relationships speak for themselves; These are of no use to anyone. But if you have Neptune in the eighth house, there is a real soul need for an energizing partnership.
If it's missing, it leads to a bleak emotional pit that's hard to escape.
imagine people with Neptune in the eighth house who are afraid of entering that deep shared nakedness I have described — but they do not admit this fear to themselves. Instead, they explain their feelings of dissatisfaction or disconnection with sexuality by blaming their lovers: "If only I could find the right person who could handle real passion, then I would be happy." But they still carry a fear or blockage inside them. Perversely, they are often attracted to people who do not have the ability to connect like themselves. Or if by chance they find themselves attracted to people who could potentially “go there,” they won't let them. They are sabotaging the situation. And so they constantly renew and maintain their own sexual frustration. "I'm just looking for someone with whom I can establish a truly spiritual relationship " - that's what they say. “But I have failed or been deceived many times.” This is an illusion; The problem is something they create for themselves. We might label this as “sexual addiction,” and that's true. But even if we observe the sexual drive, the real hunger is not for the release of the genitals. Instead, it's more like a morbid romance. Think of all the problems people could potentially run into with a slight misdefinition of the term “soulmate,” followed by a never-ending quest to find someone who doesn’t actually exist. Exchange rate? We're back to square one. At Neptune, it's all about cleaning your windows. It's about seeing clearly. And this always starts with some kind of personal spiritual practice.
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